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LRS Fox Body "Project IntroVert" get's a new Convertible Top!

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 1988 Mustang GT Convertible - Project IntroVert

If you have been following along with Project IntroVert you know that our project car started as a 1988 Mustang GT Convertible that really needs just about everything that breaks on a Mustang of this age. Overall the car is solid, it drives well and runs strong for a stock 5.0L/5-speed combo and we have had some fun with it. We have been documenting some of the resto that we have done on it because we are trying to learn about 1983-93 Fox Mustang convertibles and pass that knowledge on to you. The biggest challenge we noticed right away on this Mustang is that the top frame was shot and needed a new frame, which in turn, means that it needs a new convertible top, rear window, pads, weatherstrip, etc. Here is what the donor Mustang looked like and a picture of the top frame removed.

Install Ourselves or Take it somewhere?
Now, we have done a convertible top here ourselves before on a super clean 1984 Mustang GT and it turned out nice. We really wanted to do a complete top install on this car to show you the ins and outs of the work involved in replacing a convertible top, but we offer a complete install DVD that is done by a professional upholstery shop and we figure that since they have done hundreds of these, it's best to leave it to the professionals!

The two the main questions we get on convertible tops are "Can I replace the top myself" and "How much does it normally cost to get a convertible top replaced if I take it somewhere?"  We know that it is a bit of work to replace a convertible top and it can be done by consumers like yourselves, but we thought we would go with the other angle. Since most people are going to take their Mustang somewhere to get a top installed we thought we would share our experience with you.

What to look for in an upholstery shop:
The first thing you want to do when searching for an upholstery shop, is to do your homework. Call around and get quotes for the best pricing or if its a higher price what kind of warranty is offered. Other factors to consider are what hours they are open for when you drop your car off or pick it up and how long the installation is it going to take. Don't forget about location; choose someplace close and in a decent neighborhood if you are worried about something happening to your car. We chose to take our 1988 Mustang GT to Ed's Glass and Trim, here in Waco, Texas. They have been around for a long time and do great work for a fair price. We dropped Project IntoVert off on a hot sunny afternoon and listened to the owner say he used to have one just like it only it was burgundy and he had put a burgundy top on it to match, ha ha. We explained that we had replaced the original broken top frame with another frame from a donor car and there may need to be a few adjustments needed. Since they were replacing the new convertible top onto another top frame, the weatherstripping was trashed and needed to be replaced so that the top could be adjusted correctly. To our surprise, the trim shop was happy to do that for us also! We let them replace the header and top side weatherstrips along with new "hockey sticks"(upper well molding trim) and the seals that went under them. 

1988 Mustang GT Convertible - Project IntroVert 1988 Mustang GT Convertible - Project IntroVert

The finished product:
After we dropped the car off, the third day we were called and informed that the car was ready. A sign of resurrection, perhaps, on a car that its original owner shunned and decided that it wasn't worth keeping around. The finished product? Well, we are still a ways off on finishing it, but the new convertible top looks great and works like a charm. Some new window guide bushings were needed on the passenger side window, but that is for another blog. As for now, we are happy to have a good working top and maybe another fun video for Halloween.

So, here is the running total of what was involved in us replacing new parts for this blog and the cost of the new top installation:

ET-CTK1-BLK........BLACK CONVERTIBLE TOP KIT.................$369.99

LRS-52806A..........TOP CABLES...............................................$29.99

LRS-42318A..........RH UPPER WELL MOLDING........................$129.99

LRS-42319A..........LH UPPER WELL MOLDING.........................$129.99

LRS-42318B..........RH LOWER WELL MOLDING.......................$36.99

LRS-42319B..........LH LOWER WELL MOLDING........................$36.99

LRS-42320B..........CENTER LOWER WELL MOLDING..............$34.99

LRS-30618PR........OUTER 1/4 BELT WEATHERSTRIP.............$29.99

LRS-53986C-K.......5PC CONVERTIBLE WEATHERSTRIP KIT..$144.99

RETAIL PARTS TOTAL..............................................................$944.91*
 *Now, it needs to be noted that your Mustang may not need the same
parts that ours needed so your total may vary. You would probably only
need the Mustang convertible top kit which includes, top, glass window,
pads and well liner for $369.99.

 

LABOR FOR FOR INSTALLATION OF NEW TOP AND TRIM...$725.00**
** This is what our trim shop charged us for the top install, adjusting the
frame, and installing all of the afore mentioned parts. This is regular retail
price and not a "buddy deal", but labor prices in your city may be different.
We are just stating our totals to give you an idea of costs for reference.
If you are only installing a new top and window the cost would be cheaper.

THIS BRINGS THE TOTAL FOR EVERYTHING TO...................$1669.91

 

1988 Mustang GT Convertible - Project IntroVert 1988 Mustang GT Convertible - Project IntroVert 1988 Mustang GT Convertible - Project IntroVert

 

Convertible Top Maintenance:
Keep your top up when not in use! Many people think that,"hey, its a convertible so I can just leave the top down all of the time!" This is not the case. The top needs to stretch going up and coming down. The convertible top in it's up position is being stretched across the frame making a tight seal all the way around. If the top is down constantly to the point where it is stored with the top down or goes several days in the down position, you may look cool, but when you do have to "raise the roof" you may put too much stress on a top that has been used to being folded, or in the down position, and you could tear your top. Another bit of maintenance is to keep it clean. The convertible top is fabric and is susceptible to dirt, mold and tree sap which can drastically shorten the life of any convertible top. Keep your new or existing top clean with a top cleaner that has a good reputation. We recommend the convertible top cleaner from Ragg-Top as it works great and is economical.

The Final Word:
We feel that these prices are in line with what our budget is for this car and regardless of if we do anything else to this project car, it needed a top in a bad way! People want a convertible so that the top can be put down on a sunny day and can be raised back up when the weather is less than favorable. So now as summer is winding down and the temperature is getting cooler we can at least drive it around a little bit before old man winter arrives. We will continue to do a little more to Project IntroVert in bite size increments and keep you posted on the progress as we do it.  I hope you enjoy following us on this journey as much as we enjoy the Mustang life! What a job!


Comments

 

butch maxwell said:

thats a nice price for a new top installed , i had my 89 gt top replaced (pads and glasss window)all for 700.00 here in maryland, all i need now is a new drivers side seat and i will be finished with my project.  next is too replace the engine it has about 88 thousand miles on it and is burning oil a little so i have invested alot already so i might as well get the motor changed and it will be a new car

October 1, 2010 6:08 PM
 

Neal K. said:

im glad you added in the tip about keeping the top in the up position when being stored. i have had my top down for over a year, and it was bad news when i wanted to put it up this fall, i had to get my garage nice and warm and let the top stretch its self for about a week before i could close the latches!

October 22, 2010 11:54 PM
 

Taylor B said:

No, I didn't swap your initials, those are really mine. :)

The one concern I have with buying this top is the OEM top does not have the small bead on the back, above the glass.  It's a petty concern, but I don't want it on there.  Does anyone sell the top without that bead with the chrome tabs like the OEM top?

Still looks awesome though!  Great job!

Thanks.

October 24, 2010 8:29 AM
 

SCOTTY2THAG said:

Taylor B: The 83-90 Mustangs came from the factory with the top that has the bead above the rear glass.  They changed the design of the top and top frame in 1991 so the 1991-93 cars don't have that bead you are referring to. I'm not aware of a company out there that makes the convertible tops for the 1983-90 cars without that reinforcement bead.

October 25, 2010 8:22 AM
 

briankelly25 said:

I just wanted to say thanks for showing an honest price of what I'm looking at. My top is shot (the frame as well).  I picked up a frame for $35 at a junkyard and have been stalling to get this whole thing done.  

Seeing the price, knowing what I'm gonna need is a big help.

The only question I have from here is, what about the hydraulic system?

Were the motors and lines good to use as they were swapped?

If they weren't, is there more costs hidden here?

I would love to get my car back to the way it rolled off the line, but the cost of the top restoration has been holding me back (for the past 5 years)!

October 26, 2010 10:54 PM
 

Chris said:

Scotty.  Could you not use the 91-93 top on a pre 91 car?  Was 1991 the year they redesigned the top to sit lower in the well?  Is a top frame switch from a 91-93 Fox into a pre 91 car fairly easy?  Would that allow you to use the beadless top?  Thanks.

October 29, 2010 8:47 PM
 

btaylor said:

briankelly25, yes, we did replace the convertible top motor, lines and cylinders in another blog that has not been posted yet. The motor was working but since we were already there, we just replaced it all.

Chris, yes, I believe that you can switch the frames from a late to an early to use the beadless top.

November 2, 2010 8:17 AM
 

Kwame said:

Hey guys good info I will definately follow this til the end I have a 93 Vert and aI'm trying to figure out how to stop the leak that pours undere my rear seat and  rear floor because right now  have a convertible with a pool in the back glad I discovered it before I put my new carpet in!!

November 27, 2010 3:15 PM
 

jbutch said:

I have the exact same car as show. I have 2 questions, pls;

1. I want to change the wheels that you show on your car,  but cant find 4 bolt wheels that fit. I really dont want to go to a 5 lug wheel , nor a bigger wheel.

2. I replaced my top several years ago, and I am now having a difficult time latching the top.

I too have a floppy qtr window, which I will now attempt to fix thanks to your blog

December 13, 2010 4:07 PM

About btaylor

Been around cars and the car culture my whole life. Built up a 1957 Chevy truck for my first vehicle when I was 14, with a straight 6, split mainfold and 3 one barrel carbs. (It sounded like an angry Cessna!). I have owned a 1997 Camaro, a few trucks, fixed up a wrecked 1995 Mustang convertible and currently drive a 1997 Supercharged Regal GS and the wife drives a 2007 Suburban LTZ. I have a 11 year old girl and an 8 year old girl and a 2 year old girl! I love to play Little Big Planet, Madden football and Singstar on my PS3, golf and just about all sports. Go Mavs, Stars, Rangers and Cowboys!!!